In this lively second conversation Clinton Callahan and Dan Palmer swap research findings on the dynamics of living in creation. The rove through Creating from fear, chaos, and the groundless void as well as feelings, the unknown, the Phoenix Process, surfing the wave you are are, and much else. undefined
Podcast is available at http://nextcultureradio.org
Find more about Dan Palmer's work here: https://makingpermaculturestronger.net
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